FYI: 

We use the word ‘sexual’ a couple times near the end of the episode. It’s not used in a graphic context at all, but within the discussion about the Enneagram. Just a warning, though, if you don’t want that word flying around the inside of your car, or if you’re at work and people might hear you and question what you’re listening to, go ahead and switch to headphones.

In This Episode:

When Susanne reached out to Missy about co-hosting the Mom &… Podcast, one of Missy’s first questions was, “What’s your enneagram number?” Susanne had no idea, and Missy admittedly needed to do some more work to make sure she really knew her number. Thus, our journey into the Enneagram began, ultimately leading us to discover Stephanie Barron Hall’s instagram account, @NineTypesCo, and podcast, Ask An Enneagram Coach.

This week, we welcomed Steph to Mom &… as our guest. (Such an exciting day for us!) We talked about Steph’s Enneagram experience, and why she chose to pursue a career path that incorporates it.

We dive into our types – a 9w8 for Susanne, 9w1 for Missy – and she helps us think through the positives and pitfalls we could encounter since we’re both nines. We explore why learning more about the Enneagram can be vulnerable at first, and later help us become much better communicators. Steph also helps us understand the concept of sub-types, and how those differ from wings.

Resources We Mention

The Road Back to You Workbook

Look Listen Learn

• Missy: The NYT Spelling Bee app (Stephanie and Missy also do the crossword on the same app)
• Susanne: July by Noah Cyrus
• Stephanie: Brene Brown’s podcast, Unlocking Us, specifically the episode with Emily and Amelia Nagoski, authors of Burnout, and the episode with Tim Ferriss and Dax Shepherd; also… Bridgerton.

Meet Steph

Stephanie Barron Hall is a speaker, certified Enneagram coach, and author of the book, The Enneagram in Love: A roadmap for Building and Strengthening Romantic Relationships. 

Stephanie founded her Instagram page, Nine Types Co. in 2017 as a way to explore her own interest in the Enneagram. It has since grown into a community of people who are learning about the Enneagram themselves and their relationships together. Stephanie specializes in bringing clarity to complex concepts, and communicating the Enneagram in a way that is relatable and concise so that it can be transformative for all.

Musical Notes

Our delightfully happy intro and outro theme music, “We Will Get Through This” performed by Young Presidents, is used under license from Shutterstock.